Jumblat: I'll Tell Hariri We Won't Vote for Geagea or Aoun
Progressive Socialist Party leader Walid Jumblat announced Tuesday that he will soon inform al-Mustaqbal movement chief Saad Hariri that his Democratic Gathering bloc will neither vote for Free Patriotic Movement leader Michel Aoun nor for Lebanese Forces chief Samir Geagea in the presidential election.
“We're opposed to the election of Aoun as president and I will tell Saad Hariri if I met him that we will neither vote for Aoun nor for Geagea," Jumblat said in an interview on Al-Arabiya's Al-Hadath TV channel.
"Our support for (Democratic Gathering MP) Henri Helou in the presidential race is a support for moderation," Jumblat added.
"The key players (in the presidential race) are Hariri, (Hizbullah chief Sayyed Hassan) Nasrallah and the regional powers, while I'm seeking the election of Helou as president,” the PSP leader went on to say.
Asked about the presidential “initiative” announced Monday by Geagea, Jumblat said: “I have not read Geagea's initiative and I'm inclined to agree with Sayyed Hassan that we should not wait for the regional equations.”
“At the moment, no one cares about Lebanon's fate,” Jumblat added, referring to regional and international powers.
During a TV interview on Monday evening, Geagea had suggested that the March 8 and March 14 camps nominate two presidential candidates other than him and Aoun as an exit from the current presidential impasse.
Jumblat hoped the coming president would “continue the approach” of former president Michel Suleiman, noting that the ex-president had “set the groundwork for the state's authority over Hizbullah's arms through the Baabda Declaration.”
Describing “the theory of the strong president” as “wrong,” Jumblat stressed that “Lebanon needs a president of a strong state.”
In response to a question, the Druze leader said he does not see a prospect for tripartite power-sharing between Sunnis, Shiites and Christians in Lebanon, noting that the current equal power-sharing between Muslims and Christians “was reiterated by Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri and Hizbullah Secretary-General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah.”
He also noted that holding parliamentary elections amid the ongoing presidential vacuum would represent a “precedent” in Lebanon's history.
Turning to the Syrian affairs, Jumblat said “there is a new strategic passage aimed at linking Iran to the (Mediterranean) Sea and it won't give up the achievement of reaching the Mediterranean through the control over (the central Syrian region of) Homs.”
“The Syrian regime has only the capability to assassinate … There had been a state in Syria, but (President) Bashar Assad has turned it into a gang that practices hegemony over the people,” Jumblat added.
“The Syrian regime is killing its people and it is a shame for the Druze of Syria to stand by someone who is killing his own people,” the Druze leader added, reiterating that the presidential vote that granted Assad a third term in office was a “farce.”
Late Syrian president “Hafez Assad preserved the Arab identity of Syria and it was not subservient to Iran, but with Bashar, the Arab Syria has ended,” Jumblat added.
Jumblat also described as a “joke” a recent call by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry for Russia, Iran and Hizbullah to help end the Syrian war.
“Ethically, Nasrallah cannot label half the Syrian people as takfiris,” Jumblat added.
Asked whether he sees a possibility for the renewal of civil strife in Lebanon, the PSP leader said “a historic moment might come when Hizbullah accepts to integrate into the state and the state would then decide on the issues of war and peace.”
“We must live with this issue without incitement,” Jumblat added.
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over 10 years
That is the past, are you going to dwell on the past forever? While the Nusra comes to your home and slit your throat? Even the Resistance had ther encounters with the Syrian Army during the Civil war, I do not dwell on that, it was chaos back then, and we also killed each other all of us Lebanese. The Future of Lebanon now is securing the borders and look for the real threats, Salafis and the Zionist.
over 10 years
Because the takfiris wont stop in Syria, they will continue all over the region.
over 10 years
Mystic my friend why do you insist little old Lebanon play superpower and take up arms against the oppression of minorities? When you claim the LAF are not capable of securing our borders and need HA arms? You prefer lebanon acts like your beloved USA and invades Syria, Israel and Nigeria to assist minorities yet we cannot sort our affairs.
over 10 years
Beloved USA? Speak for yourself forces.
over 10 years
Yes, I claim LAF needs the help of the Resistance to secure Lebanon for sure.
over 10 years
In the past? So was every thread of insults you have rained on certain peoples wrong doings. As for securing our borders? Please explain what securing means? HA has been violating our borders with Israel and Syria for decades, weapons from one side and out the other yet when the consequences of their actions come to fruition and is hurting only the Shiites, we must now secure them.
over 10 years
Yes ofcourse you zionist minions, will open our borders to Israel, if your Kataeb had the chance. But guess what, you don't so live with it. Lebanon will not be part of Israel gentlemen, and USA wont be allowed to control Lebanon neither.
over 10 years
@Mystic : the joke is you idiot accusing anyone who doesn't align with your views of being Salafi Zionist supporters. This is how you treat people who disagree with you ? With insults, violence, murder or utterly stupid accusations such as above ?
You talk about democracy ? In Lebanon, Syria or Iran ? Your concept of democracy is calling whoever doesn't agree with your immoral, theocratic and tyranic views as traitors. Democracy is the right to have a different opinion than yours and exercice it if its the will of the majority !
Hatred of the Syrian government is justified by any Lebanese patriot who lived and paid for a 30 year Syrian occupation. The only occupation by the way which was ended by a LIBERATION. Unlike your fake pseudo-liberation of the south with "Israeli soldiers running for their lives"...
over 10 years
Flamecandle, everyone even Israel knows that 2000 retreat of Lebanon, and the 2006 war, was a strategic failure for them. Only moron minions such as yourself, will keep spreading this fake victory they never archieved. Their goal in 2006 was to eradicate Hezbollah, it didn't succeed, even though all you guys in M14 wanted it to happen. You lost, along with Israel. And you will continue to loose, because you are the traitors of Lebanon. You were the ones to support the enemies of Lebanon, when they attacked. Syria is gone since 2005 they left peacefully, I worry more about the Takfiris and zionists on both borders.
But ofcourse zionists like yourself, embraces Israels occupation, and condemn Syrias, which is not surprising me what so ever.
over 10 years
@Mystic : Remind me again how Hezbollah liberated the south. How Israel fled. I don't recall the name of the battle or how many Israeli or Hezbollah casualties led to Israel evacuating the south. What you call "Liberation".
Israel abandonned the South just as it stopped fighting in 2006. Had it wanted to continue, it would have ... Hezbollah has no merit.
In fact, Nasrallah apologized to the Lebanese people in 2006. If it was indeed a victory, why would he apologize ?
over 10 years
What an idiot. You have a wild imagination, and wishful thinking.
Only an idiot thinks he can "read between the lines" with such inaccuracy
over 10 years
I read it idiot, and Jumblatt said he wouldn't support Aoun or Geagea. He didn't stomp on anyone's head, and he rejected voting for Aoun as much as Geagea.
You are just an arrogant propagandist, who spends his pitiful life posting dribble on the internet, acting tough, Mr Know-it-all, and you are just BORING.
over 10 years
I think Jumblat is trying to say "I don't want to be a king maker this time"
:/
over 10 years
Hey guys if u want to blame anyone
in this war and past wars blame the
zionist jews that established the
state of israel over palastinian land,
im talking about the ,rothschilds,
they control every central bank in
the world and loan money to
governments they are that
powerfull, these are the zionist that
funded both sides of every war in
the world since the battle of
waterloo, brits vs france in 1751 u
dont believe me, just look them up
for your self they the worlds only
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family if u dont believe me i promise
u it will blow ur mind if u didnt all
ready know, truth_exposed
over 10 years
Hey guys if u want to blame anyone
in this war and past wars blame the
zionist jews that established the
state of israel over palastinian land,
im talking about the ,rothschilds,
they control every central bank in
the world and loan money to
governments they are that
powerfull, these are the zionist that
funded both sides of every war in
the world since the battle of
waterloo, brits vs france in 1751 u
dont believe me, just look them up
for your self they the worlds only
trillionaires, look up , rothschild
family if u dont believe me i promise
u it will blow ur mind if u didnt all
ready know, truth_exposed
over 10 years
Mystic
I Know it's hard for you to say ,that Jounblat is one who take the big decisions in Lebanon in spite he belongs for minority .Despite of your hate to him still your superiors want him badly to give him the advantage.
Regarding the druze please don't feel this much sad we guarantee you that we are in safe hands with that great leader and not like you, you follow Nasrollah cuz most of you are in hezbillah payroll.
Hezbollah are gone since 2000 ,Jonblat said after 2006 for who hezbollah will offer his victory and Nasrllah didn't read behind the lines.
over 10 years
roar you can read between the line but can you explain this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWjgln7EBU0
I think he's talking about you
over 10 years
Oh my god roar what a moron you don't know what the idiot is saying holly shiite what an illiterate cunt you dare come over here preaching like you know something when someone has to spoon feed you everything like a restarted tree year old
one more thing little boy, you do open links from me little ole unwashed me this one was special delivery to you personally you even commented on it and it's still true today
http://videobam.com/hlmBD
over 10 years
I love how Geagea the Khaliji kisses Jumblatt's behind every chance he gets, and Jumblatt responds by spitting in his face LOL.
over 10 years
What?
over 10 years
Yeah roar HA has so much trust and respect for the FPM it's coming out the wazoo
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Politics/2013/Jun-18/220754-bassil-says-hezbollah-stabbed-fpm-in-the-back.ashx#axzz34FXLNpu
lol what an idiot
over 10 years
well it is quite normal for him and his party to choose a weak president. If Hariri and Aoun agree, Joumblat's role as the pivot party for votes goes down to ashes and he becomes weaker.
over 10 years
Well said wolf, at last we see that a lot of us agree on our love for Lebanon and our hope that one day it will be the country we all dream of. Let's start here, the fact that we agree that we all want a strong Lebanon and a strong Lebanese army, let's start electing people who believe in this not Pricks who want to carry on filling the family's treasure room. Amen to your wish wolf, that's a cause I'm ready to die for.
over 10 years
Indeed, the situation is that dire, and only a radical solution would work. That's why I've been on this forum asking and wondering why on earth are people still following this and that and not everyone under the wings of the Lebanese army. That's who we should all support and only them, they're the only true Lebanese who don't give a damn what color or creed you are. Bless the LAF and I swear on my kids I would be back in Lebanon in a heart beat to support them even by filling bottles of water or shining their military shoes that have more honor in them than the.lot of these politicians
over 10 years
Jumblot is mixing his words again. For no where in Geagea's initiative does it mention foreign interference on the contrary it was Geagea who insisted on holding elections on time without waiting for regional circumstances to " become ripe" as Berri put it.
As for wanting a strong country without a strong president I think jumblot is loosing his marbles trying to sell Helou as a weak president.
Anyway you twist this and who ever becomes president will eventually have to deal with HA's arms. Be it Geagea aoun or helou, and if Jumblot wants a president to continue Suleman's work then this president clearly is at a juncture where Suleiman left that is HA. Therefore mr jumblot you too are not taking the situation seriously enough to realise this and your opinion is no more credible than most.
over 10 years
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over 10 years
Wolf when you make a patriotic non sectarian and non divisive statement like this I am happy to speak for 75% of the Lebanese and say we are in agreeance. This however only brings us full circle to the critical point we as M14 have been arguing. Where do you see HA in this equation as you correctly stated all arms under the LAF. For this is the very point that has lead to HA rejecting both Geagea and aoun.
over 10 years
Forces HA is only strong because the country is divided and the LAF is not as strong and backed as it should be. When the LAF, theoretically that is, takes over and the people are behind it then HA will have no other options but to be assimilated, and who knows, maybe some of them might actually long for that. Anyway, they would be fighting a losing battle I'm the scenario above, and they wouldn't have the support they need from their base.
over 10 years
Sorry, not fourth, lol, I wish, I meant forty years...
over 10 years
For some reason I doubt the LAF will have to fire many bullets against Lebanese people, I mean Lebanese as in those who want the Lebanon we want. Once the LAF starts, the tide of support would too strong for anyone to oppose, and all those who cry victim will join. This is not science fiction, of course it can be done. I do not doubt the patriotism of Lebanese officers for one second, and I do not doubt the reach of the Lebanese army intelligence bureau. If and only if they see and feel this true support, I do not see what would stop them. Again, this is not being naive, au contraire, this is being realistic, as realistic as a true Lebanese can be. There are no other solutions, it's been almost fourth years now, every sect had the upper hand at one stage or the other, and.look at the result!!
over 10 years
This is a start, lets stop insulting one another on this forum and start spreading this message, who knows, if we assimilated some of those hardline M8 ers and M14ers then everything is possible!!
over 10 years
Well said wolf this is our dream. The dream that is a totally unified non bias non sectarian based on the dignity of its citizens and respect of its people first and foremost. We have the capability to make this a reality! We always did now as you put it, the time has come to voice our rejection of the current and past and demand our own future.
over 10 years
It's great we can talk about it here. But how can we see this on the ground? That's what needs to happen
over 10 years
First time I agree with the wolf!
over 10 years
he is the most clever leader knows that this void time is large enough to get all his bids together n take his time deciding why the rush ?! now he will bargain to get the biggest Samsonite ;)
Mr. Jumblat you are the joke, supporting the same salafi/zionist that killed dozens of Druze people in Golan and Suweida. Your personal hatred to the Syrian government, makes you blind to your own sects suffering in Syria, just like Mr. Geagea neglect of the Syrian Christians.